Hello again,
Good day
Ist der Radiomoderator Australier? Nur die und die Neuseeländer sagen „Good day“, alle anderen sagen: Good morning, good evening oder good afternoon.
ladies and gentleman,
herewith we appreciate you to our Outlandishnews of ARD.
Du meinst „willkommen heißen“ --> we welcome you
appreciate = zu schätzen wissen
und „herewith“ kann man schreiben, aber würde es im Zusammenhang nicht sagen.
Also ganz einfach:
We welcome you to our …
oder
We would like to welcome you to …
We
have a especial guest here in Berlin, but today we have a
legend who fights against the Apartheid.
Wieso „but“?
We have a special guest with us here in B, a legend who fought againt apartheid (er kämpft ja nicht mehr, sondern kämpfte).
Appreciate with us :
Welcome with us: NM
Nelson Mandela.
Nelson Mandela:
Hello, thanks, thanks.
Reporter A:
Hello, nice to meet you!
Nelson Mandela:
Nice to meet you!
Reporter B:
Did you arrive well?
How was your flight?
It was a long journey from Johannesburg
to Berlin.
Nelson Mandela:
Yes, but my plane had lateness, but I arrive punctually. It
was a relaxing flight.
My plane was delayed / my plane was late
nevertheless, we arrived on time.
The flight was very relaxing.
Reporter A:
Yes, we are happy, that you come to us.
We are happy that you could come and visit.
We would adept
something about you and your life.
adept? du hast LEO benutzt und denkst es ist „erfahren“? Kann man überhaupt nicht benutzen.
We would like to learn something about you and your life.
You are a famous person, in
your country you are a hero. Can you tell something about you,
because some people dont know you.
Can you tell us something about yourself, because there are people who don’t (do not) know you.
Nelson Mandela:
Yes, no problem. My name ist Nelson Mandela. I am born 18.
July 1918 in the Transkei.
I was bron on July 18, 1918, in the Transkei.
The Transkei is in South Africa. I
have some pictures from my home country. It is not my village
where I had live,
where I used to live
but the pictures show a good insight from my
home country.
but the picture will give you a good impression about my home country.
I am the fourth son in my family.
I was the fourth son in my family.
I went to
school first of all in my family.
I was the first from my family to got to a schoo.
The biggest part of my life
I fought against the Apatheid in South Africa.
I fought against apartheid (kein Artikel).
Thereby I have
been so famous, but to help the people stand in the
foreground.
This is what made me famous, but I did it not to become famous but to help my people.
Reporter A:
You didn’t have nice college years. Can you tell us why and
how was your school process?
How was your time in school?
Nelson Mandela:
I was on a normal school,
I was in a normal school
(was meinst du mit „normal“?)
then on the college and after this I
was on the university.
then I went to college and afterwards I went on to university.
On the university I was early political
activ.
In university, I became politically active.
Durant the study I know my friend Oliver Tambo.
During my studies, I met and got to know my friend, Oliver Tambo.
Because
of a study strike we were bannished from the university.
Because of strike action at the university, we were banned from university.
Reporter B:
What did you do after this?
Nelson Mandela:
I went to Johannesburg and I worked in a law office, this
allow me Walter Sisulu, this is a friend.
in a law office, where I met Walter Sisulu, who also became a firm friend.
Reporter B:
You was against the Apartheid, do you have therefore form the
ANC?
You were against apartheid, did you therefore found the ANC?
(ich habe dir aber shcon mal geschrieben, dass das faktisch falsch ist, der ANC wurde 1912 gegründet von Sol Plaatje, John Dube und Pixley Seme).
Nelson Mandela:
This was only the chance for me to do something aganinst the
Apartheid with many people.
This was the only chance I saw to do something together with others against apartheid.
Alone I have no chance, therefore
I am very thankful for the people who had helped me.
who have helped me
Reporter A:
What did you open with Tambo?
Nelson Mandela:
We opend a law office.
opened
We were the
first blacks to opene a law office of this kind. We were
proud about this and us,
and ourselves
it was a hope , that the black people
will coordinate with white people.
We were hopeful that black people would co-operate with white people.
Reporter B:
I read in your curriculum
biographie
that you was 1952 arrested.
that you were arrested in 1952.
The
media reports were big. What happend correctly?
What happened really?
The people
much conjectured about this.
There were many speculations about the fact.
Nelson Mandela:
Well, the ANC thrilled much sensation by the government with
my campaign.
? meinst du:
The ANC’s campaign (Nelson Mandela would NEVER call it „my“ campaign und es wäre auch faktisch falsch, die Defiance Campaign eine Mandela Campaign zu nennen) generated a lot of concern within the government
We were a thorn in the eye from the government in
this time.
During this time we were a thorn in the side of the goverment.
(ein Dorn steckt sprichwörtlich in der Seite im Englischen, nicht im Auge, man kann Sprichwörter nicht wörtlich übersetzen).
The campaign was called "Defiance-Campaign“. The
ANC helped me in this time and this was a clearly announcement
against the Apartheid.
(Nelson Mandela war ein führendes Mitglied des ANC, aber man kann nicht sagen, dass der ANC ihm geholfen habe).
The Defiance Campaign was a clear rejection of apartheid. / a clear statement against apartheid
Then they come and arrested me,
extremely brutal.
The police came and arrested me, it was extremely brutal.
I will not forget it. Until I became a
answer from the government, I sit in prison.
Until I received an answer from the governemt, I had to stay in prison.
(Achtung: become = werden, bekommen = to receive, to get)
The I was ordered
under , banish order“ , which forbid me any political
activities.
(es heißt: banning order)
Then I was banned. The banning order forbade any political activities.
Reporter A:
But you didnt close your campaign?
But you didn’t end your campaign?
(siehe dazu, was ich oben geschrieben habe): But this didn’t end the Defiance Campaign?
Nelson Mandela:
No, if I had done this, it has been all for nothing.
No, if we had stopped then, it would all have been for nothing.
To the
luck it was only this , banish order“.
Luckily (nicht wörtlich „zum Glück“ übersetzen!), I did not receive a prison sentence but only a banning order.
Did they bring me
directly in the prison, it had been worse.
If I had been imprisoned, it would have been much worse.
So, I could still
act. I hide me with the help from friends so I could act.
I hid (pronounced:hid / hide would be pronounced: haid)
…friends in order to remain active-
Reporter B:
Be left thereby?
?? was soll das heißen?
Nelson Mandela:
Not realy, the governement wanted to see me in prison.
Not really,
The
process runs after this, which were very long.
Ich verstehe nicht, was du sagen willst:
Prozess = trial
vielleicht: The trial took a long time.
I fight against
the law court, but it was clearly partial.
I fought inside court / I fought against the charge, but it was clear that the judge / the court was not impartial (Verneinung weglassen und sagen „the judge was partial“ klingt falsch).
After five years I
was free.
Reporter A:
Why had been your organisation (ANC) banned and when?
Why had your organisation been banned and when?
Nelson Mandela:
1960 there was a demonstation from the ANC and the PAC.
In 1969, there was a …
The
PAC is splinter group from the ANC.
(für diese Aussage würdest du in Südafrika gevierteilt/ wenn schon: of the ANC — es stimmt zwar, dass der PAC sich 1959 vom ANC abgespalten hat, aber „splinter group“ (besser „faction“) zu nennen, würden PAC-Mitglieder als Beleidigung sehen).
The PAC was founded in 1959 because they did not believe in the non-racial policy of the ANC.
On this day there were
some conflicts between the government and our people. This end
sadly bloody. Who began, I dont know. It was a chaos. A worse
day.
(Entschuldigung, aber das ist so nicht richtig.
Am 21.3.1961 rief der PAC zu einer Versammlung in Sharpeville auf, bei der - wie bei früheren Veranstaltungen auch schon - die Teilnehmer ihre Pässe verbrennen wollten. Diese Pässe waren Identitätsdokumente, die die weiße Regierung Südafrikas für schwarze eingeführt hatte, und die Schwarze JEDERZEIT bei sich zu führen hatten, weil dort verzeichnet war, ob sie ein Recht hatten, sich in „weißen“ Gebieten aufzuhalten. Es kam zu einem Showdown mit der südafrikanischen Polizei. Die Polizei feuerte auf die Demonstranten, 69 wurden getötet. Die Polizei behauptete, sie sei angegriffen worden. Die 69 getöteten hatten fast ausnahmslos Schusswunden im Rücken. Obwohl es sich um eine PAC-Veranstaltung handelte, haben ANC und PAC diesen Tag zu dem ihren gemacht.)
A demonstration against the pass laws in Sharpeville went wrong. The police fired on demonstrators and 69 of them were killed. It was chaos. It was a horrible day / it was the worst day ever / it was a bad day. (worse ist Komparativ: schlimmer — dann muss man sagen, schlimmer als was)
Reporter B:
Do you was thereby?
Were you yourself present?
(thereby ist nicht „dabei“, sondern „damit, dadurch“)
Nelson Mandela:
No, not at this time, I travelled through the country and
organized strikes.
At the time I was travelling through the country and organizing strikes. (abgesehen davon, dass es eine PAC Veranstaltung war). :Naturally I act from the underground and I
hide me from the police.
Naturally --?
I was working in the underground and hiding from the police.
I try to avoid furthermore arrests.
I was trying to avoid further arrests.
(further= weitere, furthermore= außerdem)
Reporter A:
Did support you the ANC while this time?
(ich verstehe die Frage nicht, Nelson Mandela war ein führendes Mitglied des ANC, das für den ANC arbeitete)
Nelson Mandela: The ANC was busied with itself
(siehe oben, das macht keinen Sinn)
and started to
begin the armed combat against the government.
(Mandela war der Führer von Umkhonto we Sizwe, die bewaffnete Abteilung des ANC, das heißt: spear of the nation)
Reporter B: How did you come into captivity ones more?
How were you captured this time?/once more?
Nelson Mandela: I returned to home some day to organized more
strikes but the government knew from my intention.
I returned home for a few days to organise more strikes but the government knew of my intentions.
I would
visit my familiy
I wanted to visit my family
but the police was waiting for me. I don’t
know why the government know from it.
I don’t know how the government knew I was coming.
Reporter A: You were lifelongly convicted?
You were convicted to lifelong imprisonment?
Besser: You received a life sentence?
How do you felt
when you knew from the decision?
How did you feel when you heard the sentence? /when the sentence was pronounced?
Nelson Mandela: First I didn’t have hope.
I didn’t have any hope.
I thought that all
were lost and vainly.
I thought everything was lost and all effort had been in vain.
(vainly= Adverb von eitel)
However I began again to believe that i
will discharge and that I can carry on with my cause.
However, I began to believe that I would be freed and that I could carry on with the cause / the struggle)
(in Südafrika hieß der Kampf gegen die Apartheid „the struggle“.)
I often
prayed to god and he finally helped me.
to God (immer groß, wenn es DER christliche Gott oder DER islamische Gott ist)
Reporter B: How was the captivity for you?
How was your life in prison?
Nelson Mandela: In the jail were catastrophic conditions but I
always believed that this will have soon a end.
In jail, conditions were catastrophic but … that it would soon end. :I am bright
???
that i had enough power for that.
Reporter A: What happened after 18 years capitivity?
captivity – and no, it did not happen exactly after 18 years in prison
Nelson Mandela: There began a worldwide campaign. The people
were for it that the government should to let me go.
a worldwide campaign for my release.
Firstly I
got a deal that mean I will only get freedom if the ANC
capitulates the fight against the government.
At first, the South African government offered me a deal that I would be released if the ANC gave up its fight against the government.
But I didn’t
want that therefore I refused to do it. The public pression
The public pressure
was so big later that de Klerk let me go.
became so strong, that FW de Klerk had to release me.
Reporter B: When were you selected to the president of ANC?
When were you elected to be president of the ANC?
Nelson Mandela: That was in 1990.
Reporter A: What did you effect in this position?
Nelson Mandela: I could conduct negotiations with the
government because of this position. It was a back and forth
The negotiations went back and forth
but I could bring so the government to repeal the last law of
apartheid. That was a big success for us.
(so kann man das nciht sagen: Mandela and the ANC negotiated that free and fair elections could be held in South Africa and thus, apartheid was be ended)
Reporter B: For what did you get a Nobel Peace Price in 1993?
Why did you receive the Nobel Peace Prize in 1993?
Nelson Mandela: Oh the price.
Nobel prize
The price was awarded me for my
politcal commitment for democracy and abgrogation of the last
law of apartheid.
I received the award for my political commitment to democracy and the abolition of apartheid
(BTW: ich schreibe apartheid immer klein, weil es auch in Afrikaans klein geschrieben wird - man kann es im Englischen aber auch als Eigenname verstehen und deshalb großschreiben - du must dich aber entscheiden und bei einer Schreibart bleiben)
But the result was more important for me as the pric
… for me than the Nobel prize.
Reporter A: How did you get to the first state president of
South Africa?
How did you get to be the first …
How did you become the first State President of South Africa?
Nelson Mandela: Quite simply. In 1994 were the first
countrywide free democratic selections.
In 1994, the first countrywide free democratic elections were held.
I had the majority.
(falsch: es wurde nicht eine Person gewählt ,sondern eine Partei)
The ANC received the majority in these elections at the end of April. On 9 May, I was elected by the South African parliament in Pretoria to be the first State President of a free South Africa.
had the feeling that the people was positived from me.
???
(PS: Die Südafrikaner hätten zu diesem Zeitpunkt ANC selbst mit dem Teufel an der Spitze gewählt.)
Reporter B: What defined the condition which you produced?
(du meinst Constitution? / condition = Zustand)
What defines the South African constitution?
(you cannot „produce“ a constitution)
Nelson Mandela: To the condition you must say that it is the
most liberal condition of the world.
Many consider the South African constitution to be the most lieberal constitution of the world.
Hereon I am very proud.
I am very proud of this.
It defines chiefly the equation of all ethnic groups.
At its heart, it has the equality of all ethnic groups.
(equation=Mathegleichung, equality=Gleichheit)
The rest
is too extensive to explain.
Reporter A: Okay, why did you have passed on your second
mandate?
Why did you pass on your second mandate?
Why did you decline a second period of office?
Nelson Mandela: Due to my age. I did’nt feel me fit enough for
the tasks of a president in 1998.
I didn’t feel fit enough for the task of being president in 1998.
(diese Formulierung würde ich noch mal überlegen auch im Anbetracht der Tatsache, was Mandela seit seiner Präsidentschaft alles getan hat).
I was turning 80 and I wanted to make way for younger politicians.
These tasks don’t include
only drink coffee or acceptilate (?) a lot of laws.
The tasks of a president are varied and can be exhausting.
(übrigens verfasst ein Präsident in SA keine Gesetze und stimmt auch nicht über sie ab - das macht das Parlament)
I was known to
rise much through the region to help the people.
rise = erheben??? meinst du „reisen“ - travelling?
The will is
there but my body doesn’t cooperate more with me.
(das ist gemessen am Arbeitspensum von Nelson Mandela nach 1998 lächerlich).
maybe: I wanted to cut down on my official duties and do more things that I wanted to do.
Also, my doctors wanted me to slow down a bit.
Reporter B: Many viewers often ask themselves the question why
you did all these.
you did all this.
How did you round to doing that?
???
You had
conformed the apartheid how each other.
???
But you didn’t do
that. Thank God how one can say!#
Was soll das heißen?
Nelson Mandela: Oh yes, that is a excellent question. You must
know I already met the limit between black and white early in
my childhood.
??? the limit? Was soll das heißen?
Meinst du: division?
It was terrible for me and I absolutely didn’t
understand it why such a thing existed.
…didn’t understand why such a thing existed.
I mean, why is a white
colored human other than I?
Why should a white skinned human be more worth than me?
(man kann nicht white und coloured gleichzeitig sein)
What do I have what he or she
doesn’t have?
that he or she …
aber sollte esnicht anders rum sein:
What does he or she have that I don’t?
Skills? They are also different for white humans
for whites
if you differs so.
???
Each Human have his own skills
Each person / each man has his particular skills
and that
know we.
??? This is something we know.
What remain than?
What is left?
The color of the skin and general look? Because of my own experience I can say that the human has fear of that what he doesn’t know.
… people fear what they don’t know.
What doesn’t conform to
his association.
their assumptions.
You always see only white people in your
childhood.
If you only see white people in your childhood and see a black person for the first time when you are 16 …
Are you promptly
well meaning to him?
Will you immediately be well intentioned towards him?
No you are mistrustful because you never
had seen a black human before.
No, you … a black person before.
(übrigens ist das falsch: weiße Südafrikaner kennen schwarze Menschen seit ihrer frühsten Kindheit, aber als Diener und nicht als gleichwertige Menschen).
It exist many factors which activate this enmity.
Many factors promote this enmity/hostilty
We all know
the storys:
stories
there were bathes for blacks or changing rooms and
so on.
There were segregated amenities for blacks and whites and coloureds
(es gab KEINE Schwimmbäder für Schwarze, nur Schwimmbäder für Weiße, und wenige für Coloureds und Inder).
These formed my childhood.
This formed my childhood /influenced my childhood
(was faktisch falsch ist, weil Mandela seine Kindheit in rein schwarzer Umgebung verbrachte, erst als Teenager lernte er die Segregation kennen).
Still I didn’t want a
community which hold togehter no I wanted a mankind which hold
together.
??? verstehe ich nicht
But it didn’t exist. Therefore I already early
politcal activ to fight against it.
Therefore, I became politically active at an early age.
Reporter A: Interesting. Say me,
Tell me
you spoke a little while ago
about God and that he has give you spiritual power.
he has given
Are you a
believing human?
Are you a believer? Are you a religious person?
Do you belief in God?
Nelson Mandela: Yes, the belief hold together the people,
the belief holds people together (the people = die Nation)
boost they but it can bring they to do realy silly things.
???
If
the belief doesn’t more exist whereof shall still one beliefs?
???
It is unimagineable for me.
Reporter B: Didn’t see you your mission in the name of God?
Did you not understand your mission in the name of God?
(obwohl ich die Frage auch nciht ganz verstehe)
In
the bible is also written „All humans are equal“
All men are created equal.
Nelson Mandela: No, I already thought of it but it doesn’t fit
in my… how should I say… intention.
??
I didn’t want to
convert the people
convert people
or bring they on my side.
or bring them to my side
???
No! They should
apprehend and understand.
understand.
apprehend geht nicht
The belief comes from your heart and
doesn’t from outside.
Belief comes from the heart and not from outside.
Reporter A: What are you doing nowadays? Do you rest on your
last feats? Are you trying to forget your background?
Nelson Mandela: No, I can’t forget and displace my background.
forget my background (displace = verlegen, verlieren)
If I forget it then I would also forget this terriblenesses
which is linked with Apartheid.
If I were to forget it then I would also forget the badness which is linked with a.
My grandma always said:
My grandmother used to say
(Mandela would not call his grandmother grandma).
Embosses are there so we remember on past days and don’t
forget important things.
Memories? Scars?
==Here is it the same. My Background
remembers me on things what
reminds me of things that
I had done and I’m proud on it.
I did and …
Also if it is adjunctive with fear and fright.
… it is connected with …
Today I relax.
Today I can relax.
I follow the news but I don’t have enough agency to do
something.
energy?? und entschuldige, damit beleidigst du Mandela, der in vielen Dingen aktiv ist
I will invited for some distincions or I should
give an interview.
I get invited to receive awards and I give interviews.
But I enjoy the rest of my life. I enjoy
that which doesn’t have anybody.
???
Reporter B: Thats sounds good. I think you are a happy man who
finally changed his home how he had always wished it himself.
who has helped to make his home more like the one he always dreamed of
Nelson Mandela: Yes, so you can say it approximately.
This is about true.
There is
still always much to do although but I had contributed a
little part for them.
I have contributed a little part to them.
Reporter A: Little part is good but it has cost you much power
and nerves.
A little part is … it has cost you much energy.
Would you descripe
Would you describe the current situation in South Africa as peace?
Nelson Mandela: Hmm… no, maybe the actual situation in South
Africa
current situation
is a peace but it always still exits the Apartheid on
some places in South Africa as well one can’t identify it.
There is peace, but apartheid still exists in some places even though it may not always be obvious.
The
evil isn’t never sleeping…
Evil never sleeps.
Reporter B: Would you descripe yourself as a hero mister
Mandela?
… describe … hero, Mister Mandela?
Nelson Mandela: No, I had done that what I must do.
No, I did what I had to do.
My skills
and the help other people help me for that.
people … aided me in that.
Without some
persons I had never reach my aim.
Without the help of many people, I would never have reached my aim.
Maybe I am a hero because I
had the courage for that.
the courage to do that.
But all people who helped are heros
heroes
for me.
to me.
If be a hero or doesn’t be a hero it is more important
what is the result in the end of all them and what it brings
for the people.
Being a hero or not - the important thing is the end result and what it does for the people.
This is simply more important.
Reporter A: Very interesting! But we don’t have enough time to
ask more questions or discus
discuss
more about interesting topics!
discuss more / talk more about this
You must leave us this night to take the next flight to a next
interview.
to another interview / to give another interview
Before we will cancel this interview
Before we will end this interview (ifit were cancelled, it would have never taken place)
what would you like to
give the audience something to take along with them?
give the audience to take along with them?
Nelson Mandela: You shouldn’t believe all what one tell or
show you.
You should not believe everything you are being told or shown.
Decide for themself
Decide for yourself
or leave that a other person.
???
Each person is respawnsible
responsible
for itself
for himself (or: „for himself or herself“)
and so it will be for
ever. You do that what you are thinking is the right way
You do what you think is the right way
and do that with your heart.
and do that with all your heart.
Reporter B: Thank you very much mister Mandela for this
interview.
Mister Mandela
We were happy about you
for you
and that you are released.
when you were released.
We wish you a good homeward journey.
Nelson Mandela: Thanks no problem. I will be again in Germany
in the next weeks maybe
in a few weeks.
I will see you. Bye bye
Maybe we will meet again then. Good bye. (NOT bye bye)
Reporter A: Good bye!
Gruß
Elke
PS:
- Ich hätte nie gedacht, dass ich das mal sage: vergiss Leo.
Du hast viele Male das total falsche Wort ausgewählt und ich habe nur rausgekriegt, was du sagen willst (manchmal), weil ich dein Wort bei Leo eingegeben habe und durch die Rückübersetzung ge"klickt" habe.
- Der einzige Grund, warum ich so viel Zeit auf diese Korrektur verwendet habe, ist, dass mich als Südafrikanerin das Thema besonders interessiert. Bitte such dir das nächste Mal jemand, der sich mit dir hinsetzen kann und so eine Arbeit MIT DIR zusammen durchgeht. Vielleicht einen älteren Schüler oder Studenten. Es gibt auch Nachhilfelehrer, die man für eine oder zwei Stunden buchen kann.