FRENCH Fries - Nachfrage

Vielen Dank für alle Kommentare zu den FRENCH FRIES.

Ich habe trotzdem noch eine Nachfrage zu der Erklärung, die Bezeichnung “french” stamme von dem englischen Wort “frenched” für “in längliche Streifen geschnitten”
Da das Wort “frenched” in keinem Wörterbuch zu finden ist, weder im Oxford noch Cobuild:

kann es sein, dass man dieses Wort erst geschaffen hat, als Umschreibung für “auf französische Art” ?

Es gibt nämlich noch die Erklärung, dass die “belgischen” Fries nur deshalb “französisch” genannt werden, weil sie von Ausländern im französisch sprechenden Teil Belgiens “entdeckt” wurden.

kann es sein, dass man dieses Wort erst geschaffen hat, als
Umschreibung für “auf französische Art” ?

Für diese Vermutung spricht, was ich im Webster gefunden habe:

french: to perpare in a French manner,
a) to cut (snap beans) in stripes lengthwise before cooking,
b) to cut off the stripes of meat along the bone of a rib chop.
c) to cut a tenderloin into slices and pound the slices flat before cooking.

Demnach hieße „french fried potatoes“: auf französische Art, nämlich in Streifen geschnittene, gebratene Kartoffeln.

Das Wort „frenched“ in der Bedeutung „in Streifen geschnitten“ wäre also von „French“ = französisch abgeleitet.

Und damit wären wir wieder am Anfang.

Was sagt Mucke dazu?

Fritz

Hallo dnadd,

unter http://www.bartleby.com/61/62/F0316200.html
findest Du:

Inflected forms: frenched, french·ing, french·es

  1. To cut (green beans, for example) into thin strips before cooking. 2. To trim fat or bone from (a chop, for example). 3. or French a. Slang To give a French kiss to. b. Vulgar Slang To perform oral sex on.

In der Tat scheinen wir uns wirklich im Kreis gedreht zu haben.

Fritz, also habe ich weiter gegraben und folgendes gefunden:

French fries
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

French fries more commonly known as chips in Britain, Ireland and many parts of the the Commonwealth are cut potatoes that have been deep fried (French-fried potatoes). They are a typical Belgian dish, but have gained international prominence due to their pre-eminence in American fast food menus, propagated by fast food chains, such as McDonald’s where they are typically served with hamburgers.

They are called French fries not because of their origin (they are by all accounts a Belgian dish) but because of the way they are „fried“; in the French way (that is to say frying them two times with a small pause in the middle). They can be eaten in accompaniment with meat, fish and vegetables or on their own (see fish and chips).

Potatoes cut and fried in this manner were first served in the United States by Thomas Jefferson at his Monticello estate after his return from his ambassadorship to France.

There is a rumor that French fries are called such instead of Belgian fries because they got that name during the first World War. American soldiers stationed in France were eating the fries, and dubbed them ‚French fries‘, whereas they actually originated in Belgium.

French fries have numerous variants, from thick-cut to shoestring, curly, and waffle-cut. They can also be coated with breading and spices to create seasoned fries, and can also be cut thickly to create steak fries.

In Britain chips are cut much thicker than the typical American French fry, making them less crunchy and more fluffy. This also results in a healthier dish as the relative surface area exposed to the oil is much less. (And in another example of two nations being divided by their common language, American potato chips are what the British call „crisps.“)

French fries are served with a variety of condiments, most notably ketchup, mayonnaise, tartar sauce or vinegar (especially malt vinegar). In the Netherlands peanut sauce is also popular (also called sateh sauce, after the Indonesian meat sateh on which the same sauce is used). In Montreal, Quebec, French fries are the main component in a dish called „poutine“ in which the ‚pommes frites‘ are covered with warm gravy which then has cheese melted on top of it. In the United States, fries can be coated with melted cheese often in combination with chili. They’re very yummy, but they can be bad for your health.

oder noch mehr unter: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_fries

Gruß Mucke

Hi,

They are called French fries not because of their origin (they
are by all accounts a Belgian dish) but because of the way
they are „fried“; in the French way (that is to say frying
them two times with a small pause in the middle).

das kenne ich nun wieder anders:
In fact, the explanation is quite simple: in English, ‚to french‘ means (or at least meant) ‚to cut into lengthwise pieces‘. You probably know ‚frenched beans‘. So logically, French Fries is short for ‚frenched and fried potatoes‘. In fact, the English call them ‚chips‘, a word which has a similar meaning (a chipped piece of wood).

http://www.belgianfries.com/

Und dazu noch dies:
http://www.freshking.com/frenchbeans/

Ich glaube, das läuft auf die Frage „huhn oder Ei“ hinaus.

Gruß
Christian